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(from http://www.geocities.com/neosol/travellog/log28.htm, Sept. 18, 2002) -----Original
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Dear Swede-Ler's: I have been asked to do a little research on the origins of the toasting song, " Helan gar" and I am coming up short. I haven't been able to find out anything about it. Who wrote it, how long it has been around or on which occasions it is customarily used and if there are alternate versions of the song which begins, " Helan gar sjung hopp-fall-er-i fall-er-al-la-la helan gar sjung hopp-fall-er-al-la-la! Och den som inte helan tar, han heller inte halvan far. Helan gar! (sorry I don't know how to do swedish characters in AOL). Would someone please enlighten me? Nani >>> Lisa@imc2.com 09/13/02 08:58AM >>> I'm not a real Swede, but I sometimes play one in print. :-) "Helan går" means pretty much, "drink it up." The rest of the verse warns, if you don't drink this one, you're not going to get the next one (halvan). The second verse warns that if you don't finish halvan, you're not going to get the third snaps (tersen). See, each snaps has a name referring to the order in which it's drunk: helan, halvan, tersen, quarten, quinten, sixten, septen, etc. (eventually there's a "smuttan" I think :-) There are even snaps songs associated with each one, or at least there have been in some Swedish songbooks I've gotten--at parties, you often get a little photocopied book of the songs that will be sung that evening. Just the words, as everyone is expected to know the melodies. Easy enough to fake after tersen. :-) I don't how old the tradition is, but I can't remember a single party in Sweden, from the Christmas smorgasbord to birthdays, where we didn't sing Helan går. It's appropriate for any occasion involving snaps, as far as I'm concerned. Lisa >>> charlie@charlie-anderson.net 09/12/02 06:26PM >>> I am sure there are many others on the list who have more knowledge of the origin than I. I have been told that many years ago on certain occasions, the landlord would invite some of the tenant farmers in for a small drink on the condition that they provided a little entertainment. The singing of Helan går became the entertainment. Regarding alternate versions, the version sung by most Swedish male choruses, including Svea of which I am a member, differs a little but not substantially. Charlie >>> alexander@backlund-online.info 09/13/02 09:47AM >>> "Nationalencyklopedin" says: "Helan går, skålvisa av okänt ursprung, mycket känd och spridd sedan förra hälften av 1800-talet. H:s melodi påminner om militära trumpetsignaler och kan ha fungerat som sådan, även om det inte kunnat beläggas. Flera tonsättare har skrivit variationer över melodin, bl.a. Franz Lehár." [Helan
går, drinking song of unknown origin, very well known and widespread
since the first half of the 1800's. The melody is reminiscent of military
trumpet fanfares and may have functioned as such, even though this has
not been proven. Several composers have written variations on the melody,
among them Franz Lehár.]
>>> Juergen.Stuber@loria.fr 09/13/02 07:01AM >>> The following is from Vin & Sprithistoriska Museet (http://www.vinosprithistoriska.se/), it's no longer on their web site, found it in Google's cache. On the other hand, you can now listen to the songs themselves on the site. [Summary:
Drinking songs are an old tradition in Sweden, going back at least to the
Middle Ages where celebratory drinking with singing was a regular part
of weddings and other festivities. In the latter part of the 1700's, songs
were being composed specifically for social drinking occasions, and handwritten
collections of such songs started appearing, followed by the mid-1800's
with printed collections.]
You don't need Swedish characters for this :) Hell and gore,
>>> lsteele@mit.edu 09/13/02 09:38AM >>> Then there's Hugo Alfvén's
"Uppsala Rhapsody." This was commissioned for I-forget-what solemn
academic occasion of the kind Alfvén loved to poke fun at. The piece
is basically a medley of traditional patriotic songs which,
Anyhow, as the "drinking"
proceeds the instruments become more and more inebriated as witnessed by
a growing number of "wrong" notes in the familiar melodies. The climax
is a gloriously blotto "HELAN GÅR!" -- just
Lynn Steele >>> david@curle.com 09/13/02 10:04AM >>> This discussion reminds me of how often I have listened to Swedish concerts of choral music or even church services, and heard a song that I recognize only as a snapsvisa! It is slightly unnerving to be at a fairly solemn and sober event and hear certain melodies - the Swedes in the audience think nothing of it, recognizing a standard and common hymn or song, but in my head all I can think of are the words to the snaps version of the melody, with the typical references to drinking it, drowning in it, worshiping it, pulling it up and down on on string in my throat, hiding it from the sheriff, etc. By the way, I looked in one of my snaps songbooks, and found the following list of the order of each round of snaps that Lisa referred to earlier: helan
>>> alexander@backlund-online.info 09/15/02 07:34AM >>> > Is there any wisdom why they are named like this, (the whole, the half, the one-third,...)? "Nationalcyklopedin" sayeth: "helan och halvan, första och andra snapsen vid en måltid, fick sitt namn på 1700-talet, då det var vanligt att männen vid inmundigande av brännvinsbordet tog två supar, varvid glaset första gången fylldes till brädden, andra gången till hälften. De följande snapsnamnen "tersen", "kvarten" osv. fick sina namn först på 1800-talet, sannolikt i latinkunniga studentkretsar och utan någon halvering av volymen." >>> pwgren@yournet.com 09/15/02 06:26PM >>> I thought this was pretty interesting, so I hope nobody will mind if I quickly translate this into English for those who cannot read Swedish. >The National Encyclopaedia
says: "the whole and the half, the first and second snaps taken during
a meal got its name in the 18th century, when it was usual for men when
partaking in the brännvinsbord to drink two glasses
The SVENSKA AKADEMIENS ORDBOK defines brännvinsbord simply as a smörgåsbord with snaps or liqueur. Paul Widergren >>> rpeter@zianet.com 09/15/02 04:06PM >>> This whole thread reminds
me to mention that those of you with Nokia cell phones can set your ringger
to play helan går. When I got my first cell a few years back
and
went scrolling through the ringer tune choices I saw one
Peter >>> paradise.cowgirl@verizon.net 09/15/02 05:10PM >>> I thought it was less than 10% of Finns that speak Swedish?? And even less that speak it as their first language?? Still, I bet there are alot
of Nokia phones in Sweden :) Cheers!
Helan går, sjung hopp,
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